Welcome to Detroit Sports Forum!

By joining our community, you'll be able to connect with fellow fans that live and breathe Detroit sports just like you!

Get Started
  • If you are no longer able to access your account since our recent switch from vBulletin to XenForo, you may need to reset your password via email. If you no longer have access to the email attached to your account, please fill out our contact form and we will assist you ASAP. Thanks for your continued support of DSF.

Rule changes, work stoppage, Offseason changes, Pitch Clock, New Uniforms

https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2022/01/18/watercooler-wednesday-21/
WATERCOOLER WEDNESDAY.
Totally Tigers

Today, another opportunity for readers to discuss the hottest topics in a forum where thoughtful dialog and a variety of opinions are welcomed.

Let?s create some running conversational threads. And for those of you still going into offices, here?s a question to take with you ? or use via Zoom calls ? as you talk to your co-workers.

Here is today?s hot topic. For this blog only, a maximum of 6 sentences please.

One of the biggest subjects surrounding the new CBA is the issue of when players should be appropriately paid for their performance.

Currently, a team has complete control over a player for their first 6 (and often 7 years if they manipulate the service time clock) years. For some players, not accepting a multi-year contract from the team has resulted in punishment for the player, who ends up being kept in the minors and extending the time his organization over him beyond 6 years.

These years of team-control are often a player?s best and most productive years. And during this time, they are earning minimal salary.

This rule usually takes a player to their late 20?s and sometimes to their early 30?s before hitting free agency. At that time, many athletes have already hit their peak performance and thus become less valuable in free agency.

Over the past 5 years, what this timing has done is to reduce or eliminate the desirability of the average 30+ year old players. An increasing number of them are finding it harder to get another contract. And if they do, it is much shorter in length and less in pay than it was 5 years ago.

As a result, player salaries on average have gone down each year since 2017. Top players, with multi-year expensive contracts, make up approximately 8% of MLB?s contracts.

The current system highly favors owners who receive maximum talent for minimal pay.

The end result is that baseball is increasingly made up of both young players who are inexpensive and superstar athletes. Those in the middle who are older and solid players are increasingly being spurned.

A suggested new proposal has players reaching free agency earlier in their careers. Maybe as much as 1- 2 years earlier when they are still in their late 20?s. This would allow them to earn better contracts that are commensurate with their performance before reaching 30 when they are often being phased out from playing.

The downside of this option is that the younger athletes would probably spend fewer years with their original team before leaving.

Which side would you pick?

We?re making this hard today. No fence-straddling on this one. One vote and 1 argument for the side you picked and why.

Are you ready?

Should MLB keep the same free agency system?

1. Yes, keep the players under team control for 6-7 years. Add another catcher.

2. No, allow players to reach free agency earlier.

VOTE
 
Last edited:
https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2022/01/22/deeper-discussions-15/
DEEPER DISCUSSIONS.
Totally Tigers

MLB continues its experiment with robot umpires by announcing that it will be used with select AAA teams for this coming season.

The system works via a real umpire who uses an IPhone and ear cord in tandem with a sensor above home plate. That sensor then detects pitch location, relays the data to the IPhone and then sends an audio file to the ump?s ear, telling him to either call a ?ball? or ?strike.?

It really is not new technology. It is the same system that tv broadcasters use to show viewers pitch location.

This new system is shown to be significantly more accurate than actual umpires, esp. if Angel Hernandez is behind the plate. However, it is not fool-proof as some systems may get off-kilter and need to be re-adjusted.

But it does take the human element out of the game.

Which system is actually better for the game?

Today?s blog addresses this dilemma and allows readers to share their thoughts in more detail. And hopefully, to actively engage with others by responding to their posts and creating back-and-forth discussion threads. The more the merrier!

For this one blog only, you?ve got 6 sentences max to share your thoughts. Of course, you can respond to as many other readers as you want.

TT will supply the ammunition. One thought-provoking question. Several options provided. One hard choice to be selected. One vote.

Ready?

Which umpiring system should MLB use behind the plate?

1. Keep the real umpires calling balls and strikes.

2. Use a robo-system to call balls and strikes.

VOTE
 
https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-mlbpa-to-meet-in-person-to-talk-cba
MLB, MLBPA met in person today.
MLB.com

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022...gency-eligibility-in-latest-cba-proposal.html
MLBPA Drops Push For Earlier Free Agency Eligibility In Latest CBA Proposal.
MLBTR

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/...ations-set-to-continue-this-week-per-reports/
MLB lockout: Players submit counter-offer to owners with negotiations set to continue this week.
The players reportedly dropped their ask tied to free agency on Monday.
CBSSports

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id...again-tuesday-sides-make-progress-sources-say
MLB, players association plan to meet again Tuesday after sides make progress.
espn

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/s...-meet-person-1st-time-since-dec-1/9202442002/
MLB negotiators meet in person for 1st time since Dec. 1.
Detnews
 
https://www.blessyouboys.com/2022/1/25/22896588/mlb-mlbpa-cba-negotiations-rob-manfred-tony-clark
MLBPA drops request to alter free agency, offer new revenue sharing ideas.
Negotiations continue Tuesday, with owners? counter proposals expected shortly.
BYBTB

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022...gency-eligibility-in-latest-cba-proposal.html
MLBPA Drops Push For Earlier Free Agency Eligibility In Latest CBA Proposal.
MLBTR

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022...onus-pool-pre-arbitration-minimum-salary.html
MLB, MLBPA Discuss Potential Bonus Pool For Pre-Arbitration Players, Changes To League-Minimum Salary.
MLBTR

https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-mlbpa-cba-talks-progressing
Talks progress in 2nd straight CBA meeting.
MLB.com

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/...ut-remain-far-apart-on-key-issues-per-report/
MLB lockout: Owners, MLBPA make progress after negotiations but remain far apart on key issues.
CBSSports

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id...ible-players-labor-talks-continue-sources-say
MLB open to pre-arbitration bonus pool for eligible players as labor talks continue.
espn

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/s...uts-after-union-holds-free-agents/9215999002/
MLB drops arbitration cuts after union holds on free agents.
Detnews
 
Baseball has a uniqueness about it.. from the different stadium dimensions to different strike zones. I rather have them stay the way it is. Next they'll have a robot in the field.
 
https://www.stitcher.com/show/locke...ospects-could-the-tigers-see-in-2022-90006929
Locked On Detroit Tigers Podcast: Hall of Fame talk, MLB Lockout update, and Which Prospects could the Tigers see in 2022. 35 minutes.

In this episode we update the labor negotiations between MLB and the Players in baseball.
Then we discuss Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds not making the Hall of Fame.
Lastly we talk about a few prospects not named Riley Greene or Spencer Torkelson that could make their MLB debuts in 2022.
 
https://www.stitcher.com/show/locke...inding-success-after-leaving-detroit-90097340
Locked On Detroit Tigers Podcast: MLB Lockout Update, Tigers Fifth Starter, and Players Finding Success After Leaving Detroit. 33 minutes.

Today we give another update on MLB lockout and then dive into the players who have found success after leaving Detroit to celebrate Matt Stafford making the Super Bowl. Lastly we cover the Tigers current fifth starting pitcher situation.
 
https://www.blessyouboys.com/2022/2/1/22908004/mlb-mlbpa-collective-bargaining-owners-players-union
Spring training likely to be delayed as CBA talks sputter.
Proposals don?t match stated objectives from either side.
BYBTB

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022...scheduled-start-of-spring-training-nears.html
MLB, MLBPA Still Far Apart As Scheduled Start Of Spring Training Nears.
MLBTR

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/02/collective-bargaining-issues-service-time-arbitration.html
Collective Bargaining Issues: Service Time, Arbitration.
MLBTR

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id...d-cba-yield-no-progress-mlb-mlbpa-sources-say
Spring training likely to be delayed after CBA meeting yields no progress between MLB, MLBPA.
espn

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/...ring-training-2022-likely-delayed/9304520002/
MLB lockout updates: Spring training likely to be delayed as negotiations go nowhere.
Freep

https://www.mlive.com/tigers/2022/02/what-happens-if-mlb-union-cant-reach-a-deal-this-week.html
What happens if MLB, union can?t reach a deal this week?
Mlive
 
In 1995, the MLBPA and owners didn't reach a labor agreement until April 3. Spring training began on April 7. Most teams opened on April 26. I can't see any pitcher, today, signing up for anything close to a 19-day spring training leading into a full, or close to full, season.
Travis Sawchik MLB writer TheScore
 
Back
Top