The ?Way too Many Bowl Games? 2018-2019 Season Thread

[biggunsbob]

Has to be fixed . This current way is so unwatchable.

 

[UMRules06]

Why not have Bama and Clemson play a best of 13 series all season long while everyone else plays for third place?

 

[tomdalton22]

Has to be fixed . This current way is so unwatchable.

why is it unwatchable? I'm sure a lot of people watched the games last night and watch the bigger bowl games. I watched the Peach bowl yesterday. It certainly seemed like the players, fans and everybody else involved were very much into the game.

 

[hungry]

I thought the MIchigan game was very hard to watch, but I'm a Michigan fan and Michigan was losing and having a lot of trouble. THe casual fan that had no ties to either FLorida or Michigan probably thought the game was watchable and entertaining.

I watched both of the playoff games last night and thought both were very watchable.

 

[biggunsbob]

why is it unwatchable? I'm sure a lot of people watched the games last night and watch the bigger bowl games. I watched the Peach bowl yesterday. It certainly seemed like the players, fans and everybody else involved were very much into the game.

So in that case your saying a 8 or 16 team playoff would be watchable then. Just like in d1 and d2 . Man your hard to figure out. I am tired of the sec dominating the final 4. I would like to see more teams in it. I doubt any player sits for Michigan if they were in a Final 8. I really don?t follow the the other bowl games if Michigan is not envolved anymore. There are just to many 6-6 teams that should not be playing in a bowl game. Now a larger playoff format would get me interested.

 

[biggunsbob]

I thought the MIchigan game was very hard to watch, but I'm a Michigan fan and Michigan was losing and having a lot of trouble. THe casual fan that had no ties to either FLorida or Michigan probably thought the game was watchable and entertaining.

I watched both of the playoff games last night and thought both were very watchable.

Again I doubt any Michigan player sits unless they are really injured if there was a 8 or 16 team playoff like d1 and d2 . You are right though the offense Michigan runs is way to predictable and hard to watch under Jim or Hamilton whoever is calling the plays.

Good news is after three straight years of losing 2+ games to end the season Jim does not think he will make any changes in the off season. Can?t forget good old Don Brown. The stat padder himself. When is his defense going to shut down a good offense ? Why both offense and defense for Michigan were hard to watch last night . At least Hudson cared. That was the best part of anything Jim?s team did.

Heck Jim looks like a zombie half the time on the sideline. What happened to the guy with all the fire ? Now that Alabama team has a coach with a lot of fire. Hopefully Jim gets his back.
Because 1-9 verses AP top ten is not what he was hired to do.

 

[MSUMatt28]

We've already had so many semi-final blowouts in a 4 team format. With 8 or 16 the blowouts probably get worse and there will be more of them.

Something would have to give in scheduling too as that's really too many games for the kids to be playing (and watch the whole thing come crumbling down if players start sitting themselves in Round of 16 or quarterfinal games after a few more ACL injuries). Either you go back to an 11 game schedule (will never happen, too much $$$ lost), do away with Conference Championships (also highly unlikely), or teams all just start playing all cupcakes in their non-conference schedules to preserve players (bor-ing).

 

[tomdalton22]

So in that case your saying a 8 or 16 team playoff would be watchable then. Just like in d1 and d2 . Man your hard to figure out. I am tired of the sec dominating the final 4. I would like to see more teams in it. I doubt any player sits for Michigan if they were in a Final 8. I really don?t follow the the other bowl games if Michigan is not envolved anymore. There are just to many 6-6 teams that should not be playing in a bowl game. Now a larger playoff format would get me interested.

I never said an 8 or 16 team playoff would be unwatchable. I don't know where that is coming from.

As far as a 6-6 team getting a bowl bid, why shouldn't they play another somewhat similar team in a bowl game? The teams love it, it gives them another 15 practices to prepare for the game and for the following season, it is good exposure for the teams. I don't see any downside.

 

[biggunsbob]

I never said an 8 or 16 team playoff would be unwatchable. I don't know where that is coming from.

As far as a 6-6 team getting a bowl bid, why shouldn't they play another somewhat similar team in a bowl game? The teams love it, it gives them another 15 practices to prepare for the game and for the following season, it is good exposure for the teams. I don't see any downside.

So then you don?t care if the format is inlarged then. You are making my argument for me.

 

[biggunsbob]

We've already had so many semi-final blowouts in a 4 team format. With 8 or 16 the blowouts probably get worse and there will be more of them.

Something would have to give in scheduling too as that's really too many games for the kids to be playing (and watch the whole thing come crumbling down if players start sitting themselves in Round of 16 or quarterfinal games after a few more ACL injuries). Either you go back to an 11 game schedule (will never happen, too much $$$ lost), do away with Conference Championships (also highly unlikely), or teams all just start playing all cupcakes in their non-conference schedules to preserve players (bor-ing).

The added games for the kids is just bullshit. Not buying it. If d2 and d3 can do it so can d1.
It is going to happen. Might as well get on board . Players may not sit if they are in a playoff.
It is more tv dollars.

 

[tomdalton22]

So then you don?t care if the format is inlarged then. You are making my argument for me.

not at all...I just said I would still watch. I didn't say it would be better.

 

[tomdalton22]

The added games for the kids is just bullshit. Not buying it. If d2 and d3 can do it so can d1.
It is going to happen. Might as well get on board . Players may not sit if they are in a playoff.
It is more tv dollars.

the wear and tear on DII and DIII players is not as significant as in the power 5. There are bigger, stronger and faster players in the Power 5.

As far as more TV dollars, that is debatable. Don't you think the greedy SOB's in charge would have already gone to a large playoff if it would make more money?

 

[biggunsbob]

the wear and tear on DII and DIII players is not as significant as in the power 5. There are bigger, stronger and faster players in the Power 5.

As far as more TV dollars, that is debatable. Don't you think the greedy SOB's in charge would have already gone to a large playoff if it would make more money?

Well they are talking about it so it may happen. Sec has a lock in a 4 team format so other Conferences will probably do something about it.

 

[tomdalton22]

Well they are talking about it so it may happen. Sec has a lock in a 4 team format so other Conferences will probably do something about it.

they have a lock because they are just better. If the Big 10 had a team like Bama they would also have a lock on it.

Do you really think that the SEC wouldn't have a bigger lock on a 16 team playoff? They would probably get 4-5 teams in every year. :cheers:

 

[MSUMatt28]

the wear and tear on DII and DIII players is not as significant as in the power 5. There are bigger, stronger and faster players in the Power 5.

As far as more TV dollars, that is debatable. Don't you think the greedy SOB's in charge would have already gone to a large playoff if it would make more money?

I believe in D2 and D3 they also aren't playing 12 regular season games. I think they're still at 11. I'm also not sure if they have conference championship games, but I think not. So yeah, more playoff rounds are possible, but something has to give.

The conference championships in a way do function as quarterfinals right now, and any sort of expansion probably could incorporate them as such in a more uniform way.

 

[tinselwolverine]

the wear and tear on DII and DIII players is not as significant as in the power 5. There are bigger, stronger and faster players in the Power 5.

As far as more TV dollars, that is debatable. Don't you think the greedy SOB's in charge would have already gone to a large playoff if it would make more money?

You’re right-it’s debatable-and a the debate is primarily about how the money pie get sliced up.

The championship series has now caused all the other bowls to be viewed by many as “meaningless,” arguably expansion would cause the other bowls to devolve into even more meaninglessness, reducing the value of those bowls for those who have a vested monetary interest in them.

The conferences and the broadcast networks have a vested monetary interest in both of them, the biggest mover and shaker obviously being ESPN.

Nobody wants to expand the championship playoff system at the cost of the overall bowl booty.

So when the bean counters at ESPN/Disney crunch the numbers and come to the conclusion that there will be more money in an expanded play off, the expanded playoff will happen.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I believe in D2 and D3 they also aren't playing 12 regular season games. I think they're still at 11. I'm also not sure if they have conference championship games, but I think not. So yeah, more playoff rounds are possible, but something has to give.

The conference championships in a way do function as quarterfinals right now, and any sort of expansion probably could incorporate them as such in a more uniform way.

Yes they do in a way, but also in a way they don’t.

Notre Dame didn’t play a so called quarterfinal, but got in nevertheless over Washington and Ohio State, who did play a de facto quarterfinal and won it.

If they do expand eight it would be absurd to me for each power five champion to not get an auto bid. To me the argument “well this conference wasn’t that good this year, “ or that conference championship didn’t pass the ‘eye test’ over that team who lost” is bullshit.

There is no more convincing eye test than winning the conference championship. Besides that there would be almost as many at large births for deserving teams as there are now.

 

[wlvrnstlr4life]

Iowa takes down Miss St. and what looked to be a blowout, PSU driving to take the lead against Kentucky.

 

[wlvrnstlr4life]

5min left in game

 

[tinselwolverine]

I turned the games on out of habit. I guess I’ll watch at least the start of the Rose Bowl.