Tigers FO thread, Scott Harris Pres. of Baseball Ops,Tigers Hire Jeff Greenberg GM

[tomdalton22]

here she goes again praising Harris. IIRC, Garco was hired and implemented the changes before Harris got here. Also, who's to say that Tork wasn't going to take a full year at the major league level even if he had stayed in Toledo all last year? Does she have a crystal ball or something??

 

[kalinecountry]

https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2023/08/29/watercooler-wednesday-99/
WATERCOOLER WEDNESDAY.
Totally Tigers

There is a very good chance this year that the Tigers will end up with less than 90 losses. An improvement over the 2022 season.

However, it is not expected that the team will reach .500 this year. And in win-loss percentage, they rank 11th out of 15 American League teams.

Progress is slowly being seen in less than 1 year with the new Front Office including both player, media and fan acknowledgement that the team is showing improvement under the new regime.

It?s looking more likely that the roster has found its new heart of the order being anchored by Kerry Carpenter, Riley Greene and Spencer Torkelson.

But there are still some questions about offense as well as a number of infield positions.

The starting rotation will go into the off-season with a number of vacancies while the bullpen remains fairly strong.

As fans discuss when the Tigers will become viable again, it leads us to thinking about the current 26-man roster.

If the team wants to move forward, how many of these current players will remain as part of the solution?

How many of them will not be here in a year or two?

And will the roster solutions come from within or via free agency?

What about trades? Will the Tigers need to give up someone of value in order to acquire the needed pieces?

These are the questions to ask yourself and others as we ponder just how much the Tigers? roster needs to change. Let?s kick start some good discussion threads here ? and to take with you wherever you go during the rest of the week.

How much of the current Tigers roster will still be standing when the team reaches a competitive level?

How much of the current roster will be left when the Tigers become a competitive team?

1. 3/4th

2. 1/2

3. 1/4th

4. less than 1/4th

VOTE

 

[kalinecountry]

https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2023/09/02/deeper-discussions-86/
DEEPER DISCUSSIONS.
Totally Tigers

The Detroit Tigers starting rotation will be changing significantly next year.

Their #1 starter, Eduardo Rodriguez, is widely expected to opt out of his contract. Matthew Boyd and Michael Lorenzen, the #2 and #3 starters are gone.

That leaves a number of starters who are just starting to work their way back from the IL. They include Matt Manning, Casey Mize, Tarik Skubal and Spencer Turnbull. (Please save your comments about Turnbull for Tuesday when we will address what is going on.)

According to MLB, a #1 starter is your ace. He and your #2 pitcher give you a really good chance to win most times that they are on the mound. They offer quality starts and generally only give up only 1-2 runs.

The best #3 to #5 starters will give you quality starts as well but not as often. They will also give up more runs. The weakest of them will be innings eaters and pitch inconsistently.

Currently the 4 starters mentioned above are working their way back so inconsistency is expected right now.

But what about next year?

Do you believe that any of them can turn into #1 or #2 starters for the Tigers?

Today?s blog addresses this dilemma and allows readers to share their thoughts in more detail. And hopefully, to actively engage with others by responding to their posts and creating back-and-forth discussion threads. The more the merrier!

For this one blog only, you?ve got 6 sentences max to share your thoughts. Of course, you can also respond to other readers.

TT will supply the ammunition. One thought-provoking question. Several options provided. One hard choice to be selected. One vote.
Ready?

Do the Tigers have a #1 or #2 starter in Manning, Mize, Skubal or Turnbull for 2024?

1. Yes, 1-2 will become top of the rotation guys.

2. Still too soon to tell.

3. No, don't see any of them earning the #1 or #2 slots.

VOTE

 

[tomdalton22]

Maybe one can be a #2, but not next year. Turnbull sucks. I doubt he's even in the rotation next year.

 

[kalinecountry]

https://motorcitybengals.com/posts/...an-league-central-front-offices-by-competence
Detroit Tigers: Ranking the American League Central's front offices by competence.
The Detroit Tigers' front office is the subject of a lot of discussion, but how do they stack up against the rest of the division.
MCBTB

 

[kalinecountry]

https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2023/09/04/tough-toe-nails/
TOUGH TOE NAILS.
Totally Tigers

If you?ve been reading this blog for the past couple months, you won?t be surprised to hear about the latest drama surrounding Spencer Turnbull.

I called it over a month ago when Turnbull bombed during his return to Detroit and got sent back down to Toledo. I wrote that the strategy to get that service time clock would go on.

 

[kalinecountry]

https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2023/09/05/watercooler-wednesday-100/
WATERCOOLER WEDNESDAY.
Totally Tigers

Shortly after the World Series ends, the Detroit Tigers will find out just how many potential starting pitchers they will have for the 2024 season.

Matthew Boyd and Michael Lorenzen are now gone. Eduardo Rodriguez is widely expected to opt out. And it?s being reported that the team wants to part ways with Spencer Turnbull.

That leaves Matt Manning, Reese Olson, Tarik Skubal and Joey Wentz as the other potential starting pitchers. (Alex Faedo is being moved to the pen.)

Casey Mize is still rehabbing from surgery and expected to return next year.

Given the departures, inexperience and return of injured pitchers, the Tigers will be using a variety of resources to fill their starting rotation.

But how many SPs will they need? Will they have any veterans? Will someone step up and become the #1 starter?

Where are the majority of new starting pitchers going to come from? Potentially, they could need at least 2 or even 3 new ones.

Will they come from Toledo?

From trades?

From free agency?

These are the questions to ask yourself and others as we ponder just how much the Tigers? starting rotation needs to change. Let?s kick start some good discussion threads here ? and to take with you wherever you go during the rest of the week.

From where will the majority of new starting pitchers come?

1. Toledo

2. Via trades

3. Via free agency

VOTE

 

[tomdalton22]

These are the questions to ask yourself and others as we ponder just how much the Tigers? starting rotation needs to change. Let?s kick start some good discussion threads here ? and to take with you wherever you go during the rest of the week.

From where will the majority of new starting pitchers come?

1. Toledo

2. Via trades

3. Via free agency

VOTE

The way I look at it is they have 4 that are viable. Wentz is either going to have to be a reliever or someone that bounces between Toledo and Detroit.

Matt Manning
Reese Olson
Tarik Skubal
Mize


I certainly hope that they add them via free agency or promote from within (Ty Madden?). They are still trying to build up the farm system. What is the use of trading away youth to add a pitcher or two. Go with one more year of "band aid" starters or add one quality veteran and see where you are after 2024.

 

[kalinecountry]

https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2023/09/07/five-for-friday-83/
FIVE FOR FRIDAY.
Totally Tigers

 

[tomdalton22]

1. AUDITION PLAYERS FOR THEIR ABILITIES AND CEILINGS AT 2B, 3B and SS. Most of this infield isn?t yet set and no team is going to go out and sign 3 free agents to fill all those spots. The Tigers won?t be able to even keep every candidate given all their other needs so they need to figure out who fits at what position the best.

Who exactly are they auditioning?

 

[kalinecountry]

https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2023/09/09/deeper-discussions-87/
DEEPER DISCUSSIONS.
Totally Tigers

The Detroit Tigers just recently finished a series with the Yankees in NY. In the last game, NY fans let their feelings be known about how badly their team was playing.

Much of the entire stadium started to loudly and clearly boo the hometown team. There was definitely no question about their unhappiness.

Which brings us to the question about whether or not it is appropriate to boo your team during a game.

Yankee fans are not a quiet nor patient bunch. They let their feelings be known. Even when ticket prices jumped one year, they boycotted games until prices came down to a more reasonable level.

Gauging fan reaction is one way teams craft their product. And it?s used to explain why the Yankees move much more quickly than other teams when their product needs improving.

On the other hand, there are the Tigers who get little to no blow back from fans when they put a poor product on the field.

Which they have been doing for 7 years now.

Should Tiger fans be more vocal in expressing their happiness or dissatisfaction with the team?

Should fans become more vocal with the organization?

Is it appropriate to boo the team during a poorly-played game?

Or is it disrespectful? Are there better ways to show your unhappiness with the team?

Today?s blog addresses this dilemma and allows readers to share their thoughts in more detail. And hopefully, to actively engage with others by responding to their posts and creating back-and-forth discussion threads. The more the merrier!

For this one blog only, you?ve got 6 sentences max to share your thoughts. Of course, you can also respond to other readers.

TT will supply the ammunition. One thought-provoking question. Several options provided. One hard choice to be selected. One vote.
Ready?

Is booing an acceptable way of showing unhappiness with a team's performance?

1. Yes, booing can be an acceptable tool.

2. No, there are better ways to express dissatisfaction.

VOTE

 

[kalinecountry]

The Red Sox today announced that they have parted ways with Chief Baseball Officer Chaim Bloom.

before you think Chaim Bloom would ever work as the GM for Scott Harris being POBO..let me stop you..Bloom will get a great job this offseason...and there is ZERO chance he would work FOR... Scott Harris.

I would call Chaim Bloom see if he wanted to come to Detroit ..and if he said yes..I would terminate Scott Harris with a polite thank you..tomorrow.

Bloom was saddled with
broken Chris Sale
trade Betts
injured Trevor Story
not resigned JD Martinez
budget constrains

John Henry and Werner never take blame.

The level of savagery and misguided impatience of BOS ownership is ....not a shock.,.Chaim Bloom is a hell of a GM..rebuilt their entire farm system..did all their dirty work..likely was not allowed to spend when he wanted to spend..and I seriously doubt he gets a better GM..

When Scott Harris does his season review..will he say..it was a learning year..he was happy with their progress..or basically bullshit you for playing waiver pickups all year..

MGorosh

 

[kalinecountry]

https://motorcitybengals.com/posts/...-future-gm-just-become-available-01haaazfyaft
Detroit Tigers: Did Scott Harris' future GM just become available? Let's hope not.
Is there any chance Scott Harris can lure Chaim Bloom to the Detroit Tigers?
MCBTB

 

[kalinecountry]

Jon Morosi:

The Tigers' search for a general manager remains ongoing, sources say.

The new GM, once hired, will report to Scott Harris, the team's president of baseball operations.

Sources believe it is possible the hire will be made before the end of the regular season.

 

[kalinecountry]

The Tigers could potentially have a new general manager in place before the end of the season, MLB Network?s Jon Morosi reports via Twitter.

It was almost exactly a year ago that Scott Harris was hired as the club?s new president of baseball operations, though the GM role (effectively Harris? top lieutenant) has remained vacant, despite an ongoing search and the fact that Detroit has three assistant GMs in Sam Menzin, Rob Metzler, and Jay Sartori.

It remains to be seen if the Tigers might promote from within or look to someone from outside the organization to act as Harris? official second-in-command.

There hasn?t been much news on the GM search or Harris? hiring preferences, as he said back in June that the process had taken a back seat to more pressing matters, such as preparation for the amateur draft and presumably the trade deadline in short order afterwards.

It could also be that Harris has someone in particular in mind who is currently under contract with another organization, and had to wait until closer to the end of the 2023 season to engage in negotiations.
Or, since Harris was viewing his first season with the Tigers as an evaluation process on and off the field, he might have a better sense of what he wants in
a GM after a year of gauging the club?s pluses and minuses.

MLBTR

 

[kalinecountry]

https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2023/09/18/character-counts/
CHARACTER COUNTS.
Totally Tigers

 

[tomdalton22]

https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2023/09/18/character-counts/
CHARACTER COUNTS.
Totally Tigers

Harris seems to only look at character when it suits him. Look at Cabrera. They nominate him for the Roberto Clemente award. This guy has a laundry list of items that point to a lack of character. :cheers:

Just from a post in TT last week.

from totally tigers

"2. Ever since the Tigers signed Miguel Cabrera, it was well-known that few could communicate well with him. That his personality was temperamental and he only engaged when he wanted. Victor Martinez was identified as the only one who could keep Miggy in check.

Miggy never bonded with any of his managers for years. He refused to return texts or phone calls in the off-season and constantly ignored his third base coach in running the bases. But now, a few years too late, A. J. Hinch has solved how to communicate and engage with Cabrera. It?s been written that the two have ?outstanding communication? with each other and that Miggy truly has liked Hinch since he came on board. Hinch?s psychology degree is certainly paying off.

One just wonders that if A. J. was managing in Detroit years ago whether some of the health issues with Cabrera, including his problematic weight, would have been addressed before they became significant issues."


Of course, it's hard to ignore that he had a secret second family in Florida.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Didn't you already post that somewhere else Tom.

 

[tomdalton22]

Didn't you already post that somewhere else Tom.

yes, but I thought it was relevant since the article was talking about how much Scott Harris values character. I am pointing out that he and the author of the article seem to be a little hypocritical.

 

[byco42]

yes, but I thought it was relevant since the article was talking about how much Scott Harris values character. I am pointing out that he and the author of the article seem to be a little hypocritical.

In fairness, Cabrera was inherited. The author makes a valid point about the Cubs, but dismisses many teams that have won championships with a collection of characters.

The A's, Yankees, Nationals, and the (cheating) Astros come to mind. Interesting that the author somehow is not stepped on by that herd of elephants in the room.