To everyone who says Ebron can be like Graham

[LKP]

It's per drive is the stat to use. Stafford has more attempts because he IS the Lions offense. Flacco was along for the ride but then had a great playoff run. Good timing, and huge contract.

 

[LKP]

And the two games they went to shit, Stafford did his job for the most part. It wasn't just Calvin. It was Calvin and one other big weapon. Weapons are important too. Those 2 games, the run game went to shit with Fox at Right Tackle (not Staffords fault) and the WRs got no separation but Stafford was putting the ball where it needed to be.

You harp on comp %. Stafford was 62.5% at GB and 66.7% at Minnesota. And no picks either game. Stafford did his job. 89 rating and 95 rating in those games WITHOUT Calvin.

 

[tomdalton22]

It's per drive is the stat to use. Stafford has more attempts because he IS the Lions offense. Flacco was along for the ride but then had a great playoff run. Good timing, and huge contract.

yards per drive? Really...did you just make that stat up? Who gives a fuck about yards per drive? It's yards per attempt that matters.

You point out a few games here and there when a lot of the blame for the Lions loss isn't on Stafford's shoulders. Face it...Stafford = Flacco.

 

[tomdalton22]

And the two games they went to shit, Stafford did his job for the most part. It wasn't just Calvin. It was Calvin and one other big weapon. Weapons are important too. Those 2 games, the run game went to shit with Fox at Right Tackle (not Staffords fault) and the WRs got no separation but Stafford was putting the ball where it needed to be.

You harp on comp %. Stafford was 62.5% at GB and 66.7% at Minnesota. And no picks either game. Stafford did his job. 89 rating and 95 rating in those games WITHOUT Calvin.

wow...Stafford did his job...isn't that what he is supposed to do every game?

 

[LKP]

Yards per drive matters because drives are around equal. Not Staffords fault, the Ravens don't trust Flacco to throw the ball much. Or that Flacco fails early on 3rd downs and has less attempts because of that.

I pointed out Stafford had good QB ratings without Calvin. Stafford is not Flacco because Stafford is a QB who can lead an offense and Flacco is a game manager. Therefore, Stafford>>>Flacco.

 

[tomdalton22]

Yards per drive matters because drives are around equal. Not Staffords fault, the Ravens don't trust Flacco to throw the ball much. Or that Flacco fails early on 3rd downs and has less attempts because of that.

I pointed out Stafford had good QB ratings without Calvin. Stafford is not Flacco because Stafford is a QB who can lead an offense and Flacco is a game manager. Therefore, Stafford>>>Flacco.

The stats and playoff success disagree with your Honolulu Blue and Silver "homer" opinion.

 

[LKP]

The stats and playoff success disagree with your Honolulu Blue and Silver "homer" opinion.

Not TDs, 3rd down %, yards per drive or season and the trust the Lions team has in Stafford compared to Flacco. And just pure talent too.

Not being a homer, I'm being right on the game tape.

Stafford number 100 per NFL. Let's see if Flacco cracks the top 100 for players.

 

[Mitchrapp]

It does if there is less separation. Having multiple weapons matters. Boldin, Pitta out. Rice hurt. Bad Oline. No coach can fix that. I think Stafford is way better than Flacco anyway too.

So there's no separation, so let's throw an INT. :yay:

How about he takes a 4 yard sack or throw it out of bounds..? Novel concept, eh.

"Matt Stafford who can make any pass, once".

 

[LKP]

So there's no separation, so let's throw an INT. :yay:

How about he takes a 4 yard sack or throw it out of bounds..? Novel concept, eh.

"Matt Stafford who can make any pass, once".

If that were the case we would be bitching about the Oline taking 60 sacks and the Lions offense being much worse actually (not moving the chains as well).

I'll take an offense that moves the ball well even with a bad number 2 and number 3 with the occasional pick over an offense that punts all the time because Stafford is afraid to make a throw to a shitty WR. I'd say only 10 picks were Staffords fault too.

 

[tomdalton22]

If that were the case we would be bitching about the Oline taking 60 sacks and the Lions offense being much worse actually (not moving the chains as well).

I'll take an offense that moves the ball well even with a bad number 2 and number 3 with the occasional pick over an offense that punts all the time because Stafford is afraid to make a throw to a shitty WR. I'd say only 10 picks were Staffords fault too.

haha...of course you would! You are such a homer!!!

 

[LKP]

haha...of course you would! You are such a homer!!!

Lions have a good offense. The tape doesn't lie. And alot of the stats too.

 

[Mitchrapp]

If that were the case we would be bitching about the Oline taking 60 sacks and the Lions offense being much worse actually (not moving the chains as well).

I'll take an offense that moves the ball well even with a bad number 2 and number 3 with the occasional pick over an offense that punts all the time because Stafford is afraid to make a throw to a shitty WR. I'd say only 10 picks were Staffords fault too.

Then throw it out of bounds. Okay so his completion % would be a bit lower. But it's dumb to throw the ball to "less separation" because he thinks he can make all these throws. I'm not sure where people get he's smart..he's dumb as a doorknob.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Lions have a good offense. The tape doesn't lie. And alot of the stats too.

Sure we do. Then why bring in all the help if "Linos have good offense".

 

[LKP]

Sure we do. Then why bring in all the help if "Linos have good offense".

Good to elite and more complete is better. Stafford carried us, now let's make life easy for him.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Good to elite and more complete is better. Stafford carried us, now let's make life easy for him.

Lol, Stafford carried us? :lmao:

Oh man I needed that..

 

[tomdalton22]

Good to elite and more complete is better. Stafford carried us, now let's make life easy for him.

where did he carry them? To a 4-12 record? To a 7-9 record? To mediocrity! Flacco carried his slightly above average team to a SB victory...Stafford throws TD's to the wrong team because he has a 10 cent head.

 

[LKP]

where did he carry them? To a 4-12 record? To a 7-9 record? To mediocrity! Flacco carried his slightly above average team to a SB victory...Stafford throws TD's to the wrong team because he has a 10 cent head.

4 of his 19 picks were read errors. Stafford is smart and has a ton of football knowledge and can read defenses well.

 

[tomdalton22]

4 of his 19 picks were read errors. Stafford is smart and has a ton of football knowledge and can read defenses well.

3 of his picks went the other way for TDs

 

[LKP]

3 of his picks went the other way for TDs

Two were bad throws not reads, one Calvin got jammed somehow against Hall. None of them were read issues.

 

[tomdalton22]

Two were bad throws not reads, one Calvin got jammed somehow against Hall. None of them were read issues.

so he makes poor throws but good reads? Awesome!