Calvin must be out of his mind....right??

[LKP]

If you disagree vehemently with Tony, you are speculating too. And with less to back it up.

Will there be less doubles on Calvin? Unknown.

 

[dubbsco]

Rodgers has a career 104.9 rating. 188 TDs/52 INTs. Won a Super Bowl. Don't even try and convince us that Rodgers has been living off weapons. He is one of the best QBs in the league. Stafford would be lucky to live in the same stratosphere as him.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Again......it's not on every play. All he is saying is that you can't just account for him all the time. We have better playmakers now. He has a clue...

Calvin gets single now and then..it happens. But it won't happen because suddenly teams see a rook as a threat that needs to be double teamed.

 

[LKP]

Rodgers has a career 104.9 rating. 188 TDs/52 INTs. Won a Super Bowl. Don't even try and convince us that Rodgers has been living off weapons. He is one of the best QBs in the league. Stafford would be lucky to live in the same stratosphere as him.

Rodgers has always had the multiple weapons. Rodgers could have the same problems as Stafford had in 2013.

And they lose Jones so they take Adams. Lose Finley take Rodgers in Round 3. They know multiple weapons gets it done.

 

[tomdalton22]

See 2011. Just as good. Rodgers has been living off multiple weapons. Staffords time to shine.

LOL...you are such a homer.

As a starter

Rodgers WORST completion % was 63.6%
Stafford's BEST was 63.5%

Rodgers had one year where his QB rating was below 100
Stafford's BEST rating was 97.2

As far as weapons...GB has decent/good WRs but Rodgers makes them better than they are because he is so accurate. Notice guys seem to come and go but Rodgers is always great. Stafford has had the best WR in the game since day one. CJ has always been great but Stafford can't elevate any average WRs because he is just average.

 

[dubbsco]

No, they know elite QBs who make their players better get it done.

 

[LKP]

LOL...you are such a homer.

As a starter

Rodgers WORST completion % was 63.6%
Stafford's BEST was 63.5%

Rodgers had one year where his QB rating was below 100
Stafford's BEST rating was 97.2

As far as weapons...GB has decent/good WRs but Rodgers makes them better than they are because he is so accurate. Notice guys seem to come and go but Rodgers is always great. Stafford has had the best WR in the game since day one. CJ has always been great but Stafford can't elevate any average WRs because he is just average.

You underrate their weapons. Jennings in his prime, Finley the stretch the field guy, Nelson beast, Cobb good slot. Rodgers is in a great situation. They took Round 2 and 3 this year too after losing Jones/Finley.

Stafford finally has the calvary to support him too.

And Rogers got to sit three years instead of having rookie year shit stats.

 

[Mitchrapp]

You underrate their weapons. Jennings in his prime, Finley the stretch the field guy, Nelson beast, Cobb good slot. Rodgers is in a great situation. They took Round 2 and 3 this year too after losing Jones/Finley.

Stafford finally has the calvary to support him too.

And Rogers got to sit three years instead of having rookie year shit stats.

And yet Stafford is going into year 6..how long are we suppose to wait..?

 

[tonyballs]

He has no clue. I remember when big Mike Williams was suppose to be a stud. You have no idea, nor CJ, what he does. Or as far as what defenses do. It makes no sense to single Calvin and double a rook te.

Again......it's not on every play. All he is saying is that you can't just account for him all the time. We have better playmakers now. He has a clue...

 

[Mitchrapp]

Again......it's not on every play. All he is saying is that you can't just account for him all the time. We have better playmakers now. He has a clue...

And maybe, I hope, Tate and Ebron will produce. But how does that make it easier on Calvin? Calvin makes it easier on everyone else.

And no he has no clue. You have to account for him, all the time, 100%.

 

[LKP]

And maybe, I hope, Tate and Ebron will produce. But how does that make it easier on Calvin? Calvin makes it easier on everyone else.

And no he has no clue. You have to account for him, all the time, 100%.

Less pressure to produce more by Calvin. Everything not on his shoulders.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Less pressure to produce more by Calvin. Everything not on his shoulders.

What does that have to do with double teams?

 

[tomdalton22]

You underrate their weapons. Jennings in his prime, Finley the stretch the field guy, Nelson beast, Cobb good slot. Rodgers is in a great situation. They took Round 2 and 3 this year too after losing Jones/Finley.

Stafford finally has the calvary to support him too.

And Rogers got to sit three years instead of having rookie year shit stats.

Jennings is 2 years older than CJ. He has averaged about 900 yards a year since he has been in the league. He left GB and sucked. Finley a stretch the field guy? 12.5 yards per catch. Averaged 3 catches a game in his career. He is closer to Pettigrew than a good TE...average at best. James Jones is just an average WR as proven by the 3 years $11M contract he got from the Raiders. Nelson is good. Cobb is good but missed 10 games last year. His one season he did have 80 catches on 104 targets.

 

[LKP]

What does that have to do with double teams?

You asked how does it make life easier for Calvin. I answered you. Less mental stress and less need to try to do too much every play.

 

[Mitchrapp]

You asked how does it make life easier for Calvin. I answered you. Less mental stress and less need to try to do too much every play.

If 5000 yards in 3 years was him stressed I can't wait.

 

[LKP]

Jennings is 2 years older than CJ. He has averaged about 900 yards a year since he has been in the league. He left GB and sucked. Finley a stretch the field guy? 12.5 yards per catch. Averaged 3 catches a game in his career. He is closer to Pettigrew than a good TE...average at best. James Jones is just an average WR as proven by the 3 years $11M contract he got from the Raiders. Nelson is good. Cobb is good but missed 10 games last year. His one season he did have 80 catches on 104 targets.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/9638/greg-jennings

Jennings was a beast in his prime. 2008-2010. And you seriously are averaging stuff. Jennings got hurt in 2011 and 2012. Go by game, not by season.

Nelson is an increbile weapon. Cobb for the 2012 season huge and half of 2013. Still better than Burleson by far. And both Cobb and Burleson played half the year.

Jones is a very solid player. He's more like Burleson stat wise but Burleson was the 2, Jones was the 3 in Green Bay. Weapon central. And Jones is 30 by the way. That explains his contract. Jennings got paid.

Finley when healthy was good for 650-700 yards. That is a good TE. 12 YPC or more. Had two 14 YPC seasons. Pettigrew is 10 YPC guy.

Stafford had one year with multiple weapons. 2011. And he produced like Rodgers. And Burleson as a 2 and rookie Young really weren't even that good. Finley>Pettigrew. Having Jennings and Nelson and Cobb>Calvin.

 

[LKP]

If 5000 yards in 3 years was him stressed I can't wait.

I can't wait too. Efficiency and more TDs. Calvin can play better is the scary thing.

 

[tonyballs]

Calvin gets single now and then..it happens. But it won't happen because suddenly teams see a rook as a threat that needs to be double teamed.

Ebron is a TE that can split the seams. He's more of a deep threat than a lot of TEs. Something Pettigrew or Fauria are not. Of course you have to account for him.

 

[LKP]

But finally Calvin,Tate,Ebron,Bush/Bell and Pettigrew/Fauria trumps Nelson/Cobb/Adams/Boykin and Lacy and Rick Rodgers/Quarless.

Lions have more weapons. Stafford can outproduce Rodgers this year with health.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Ebron is a TE that can split the seams. He's more of a deep threat than a lot of TEs. Something Pettigrew or Fauria are not. Of course you have to account for him.

No one has seen him here. There are busts all the time. He could fall flat..