Coaching Search Recap

[mhughes0021]

When did I say it was all on him. I'll give you 100 bucks if you can find I post where I said that. Saying Staff is average is just one thought.

hes a moron. That being said a slightly above average qb could have led us to more than 7 wins this year. Stafford was a below average qb this year..

 

[Mitchrapp]

hes a moron. That being said a slightly above average qb could have led us to more than 7 wins this year. Stafford was a below average qb this year..

My math skills might be wrong. First part of the season good, 2nd part utter crap - average that and you get, compute compute oh yeah below average. Sorry about that.

 

[mhughes0021]

My math skills might be wrong. First part of the season good, 2nd part utter crap - average that and you get, compute compute oh yeah below average. Sorry about that.

the funny part is they don't see the correlation. first half plays well and we win. 2nd half play like Brandon weeden....we lose. Its a very simple correlation....yet very simple minded people cant understand it.

 

[grandy]

5 Questions with Battle Red Blog about Gary Kubiak

http://www.prideofdetroit.com/2014/1/10/5289718/lions-coaching-search-gary-kubiak-texans

1. After a 2-0 start in 2013, Kubiak's tenure with the Texans came to an end following 11 straight losses. Was it just a perfect storm of problems that led to such a rough season for Houston, and how much of the blame goes back to Kubiak?

Calling it a perfect storm probably absolves Kubiak too much, but there's no doubt a whole lot went wrong at once. If there's a single criticism to lay at Kubiak's feet for how the Texans spiraled this season, it's that he stuck with Matt Schaub far too long. Loyalty is a great character trait, but it likely had a big hand in getting Kubiak fired. When Kubes put Schaub in for Case Keenum during the loss to the Raiders, Texans fans wondered what he was thinking. When Kubiak did it again in the loss at Jacksonville, his fate was sealed. To be fair, he was almost surely a goner anyway, but I firmly believe that singular decision on Thursday Night Football convinced Bob McNair to act the following day instead of waiting until the end of the season.

2. Before 2011, Kubiak had a 37-43 record as head coach of the Texans. He then put together a 22-10 record over the next two seasons before things bottomed out in 2013. Which stretch of Kubiak's tenure best reflects his overall coaching ability?

I'd say he's probably closer to the guy whose team hovered near .500 than the guy whose team went 22-10 in 2011 and 2012. That's not a dig on him. That's merely acknowledging that his teams went 6-10, 8-8, 8-8, 9-7, 6-10, 10-6, 12-4 and 2-11 (he got fired before the last three losses this year). The records sort of speak for themselves, and I say that as a Gary Kubiak fan.

3. The top priority for the Lions' next head coach is to elevate Matthew Stafford's game to another level. How would you evaluate the development of the Texans' quarterbacks under Kubiak?

If there's one reason to be bullish on Gary Kubiak, it's that he truly does work wonders with QBs. He made Matt Schaub into a very good QB for several years. He finished a push to a division title and won a playoff game with a rookie who was drafted in the fifth round. He even adjusted his game plan the first few weeks that Case Keenum started this year to the point that there were some people who thought Keenum could be a legitimate starting QB in the NFL. When it comes to quarterback whispering, Gary Kubiak is for real.

4. The Lions struggled big time in the discipline department under Jim Schwartz. Pre-snap penalties, personal fouls and turnovers were the norm. How were the Texans in the discipline department under Kubiak?

Up until this season, I'd say the Texans were a fairly disciplined team under Gary Kubiak. This year, the freaking wheels came flying off.

5. What would you characterize as the strengths and weaknesses of a "typical" Kubiak-coached team?

Strengths: Solid QB play. Strong running attack in the zone blocking scheme (at least for Steve Slaton's rookie year and each year Arian Foster has been healthy). Good use of TEs. Offensive line play (generally; it was noticeably worse in 2012 and outright awful at times this past season).

Weaknesses: Defense (until Wade Phillips came along in 2011, the Texans' defenses were consistently atrocious under Kubiak, thanks in large part to his awful hires at DC in Richard Smith and Frank Bush). Clock management. Lack of in-game adjustments. Loyalty to an incomprehensible fault (e.g., Schaub, Kubiak's insane refusal to ever fire special teams coach Joe Marciano).

 

[Mitchrapp]

5 Questions with Battle Red Blog about Gary Kubiak

http://www.prideofdetroit.com/2014/1/10/5289718/lions-coaching-search-gary-kubiak-texans

5. What would you characterize as the strengths and weaknesses of a "typical" Kubiak-coached team?

Strengths: Solid QB play. Strong running attack in the zone blocking scheme (at least for Steve Slaton's rookie year and each year Arian Foster has been healthy). Good use of TEs. Offensive line play (generally; it was noticeably worse in 2012 and outright awful at times this past season).

Weaknesses: Defense (until Wade Phillips came along in 2011, the Texans' defenses were consistently atrocious under Kubiak, thanks in large part to his awful hires at DC in Richard Smith and Frank Bush). Clock management. Lack of in-game adjustments. Loyalty to an incomprehensible fault (e.g., Schaub, Kubiak's insane refusal to ever fire special teams coach Joe Marciano).

I wouldn't want this guy just for the weaknesses.

 

[LKP]

Funny how Tom Brady has managed to play at an elite level when he has nothing but practice squad players around him. Know why? Because Tom Brady is a good QB and has a well coached team. Stafford is not a good QB and has a poorly coached team. IT really is that simple. Why people want to put up excuses and nit pick over this and that is a waste of time. And I'll tell ya something else, Whisenhunt is not the answer. If the Lions really cared about winning, they would get Khan and Cowher in here and let them have full control.

Funny how Amendola and Gronkowksi had 80 and 60 targets and Aaron Dobson is a 2nd round pick. Funny how the Pats had a better run game than Detroit helping Brady. Funny how the Pats had 7 more turnovers forced to make life easier with short fields. Funny how Stafford had 6 more TDs scored than Brady. Funny how Stafford had better YPA and more yards. Funny how Brady plays in the shitty AFC East. Funny how an 8 int difference and 2% comp difference is all on Stafford somehow, when it's really not. Funny how forcing to Calvin when nobody else gets open can lead to 9 ints. Funny how Stafford had 0 ints without Calvin playing.

It's not simple. It's a team sport with alot of variables.

 

[grandy]

I wouldn't want this guy just for the weaknesses.

Honestly, after everything I've read, most of these candidates are just time-fillers. It's Whisenhunt's job as soon as the Chargers get knocked out. Does anyone actually believe a guy like Mike Munchak is a serious candidate?

 

[mhughes0021]

Funny how Amendola and Gronkowksi had 80 and 60 targets and Aaron Dobson is a 2nd round pick. Funny how the Pats had a better run game than Detroit helping Brady. Funny how the Pats had 7 more turnovers forced to make life easier with short fields. Funny how Stafford had 6 more TDs scored than Brady. Funny how Stafford had better YPA and more yards. Funny how Brady plays in the shitty AFC East. Funny how an 8 int difference and 2% comp difference is all on Stafford somehow, when it's really not. Funny how forcing to Calvin when nobody else gets open can lead to 9 ints. Funny how Stafford had 0 ints without Calvin playing.

It's not simple. It's a team sport with alot of variables.

60 targets for gronk isn't a lot lol. 80 targets for a guy that should catch 100 passes...isn't a lot. Dobson didnt even play. Brady adjusted, worked with what he got...and almost got his team a 1 seed after numerous injures/jail derailed his targets. Ridley benched, Vereen injured, Gronk injured, Welker gone, Woodhead gone, Hernandez shot people in the head, Amendola injured. We complain when staff is missing one of his targets....Brady was missing like all of them lmao. Its very "simple" to see how a good qb can make "the next guy up" produce and be better and help the team win. He turned Edelman into a 100+ catch WR. Your comparisons are once again ridiculous....

 

[detrisin]

Funny how Brady plays in the shitty AFC East.

IMO you lose on this point alone. With Rogers being out for what...seven weeks?...the division was handed to Det and they choked it away.

 

[elrod817]

Honestly, after everything I've read, most of these candidates are just time-fillers. It's Whisenhunt's job as soon as the Chargers get knocked out. Does anyone actually believe a guy like Mike Munchak is a serious candidate?

If we have anyone aside from the Wiz, save for some surprise super candidate, I'll be greatly disappointed.

 

[LKP]

60 targets for gronk isn't a lot lol. 80 targets for a guy that should catch 100 passes...isn't a lot. Dobson didnt even play. Brady adjusted, worked with what he got...and almost got his team a 1 seed after numerous injures/jail derailed his targets. Ridley benched, Vereen injured, Gronk injured, Welker gone, Woodhead gone, Hernandez shot people in the head, Amendola injured. We complain when staff is missing one of his targets....Brady was missing like all of them lmao. Its very "simple" to see how a good qb can make "the next guy up" produce and be better and help the team win. He turned Edelman into a 100+ catch WR. Your comparisons are once again ridiculous....

And Brady had things go in his favor too. AFC East is still a joke compared to GB with Rodgers for half a year, better run game efficiency and more turnovers forced by his defense. AFC Blows all 16 games and Stafford put 40 up on the Packers when he had Calvin/Burleson.

With Durham, Burleson and Ogletree and Fauria, that is worse than what Brady had by the way. Or Duham, Ogletree, Pettigrew/Scheffer and Pat Edwards is also worse than what Brady had on Edleman/Thompkins alone. And it's proven, Pats run game was better.

Point is Stafford did better than Brady. More TDs by 6, more YPA. The 2% comp difference is on good receivers like Calvin and Bush having the drops and bad receivers too like Durham. Plus different competition.

 

[mhughes0021]

And Brady had things go in his favor too. AFC East is still a joke compared to GB with Rodgers for half a year, better run game efficiency and more turnovers forced by his defense. AFC Blows all 16 games and Stafford put 40 up on the Packers when he had Calvin/Burleson.

With Durham, Burleson and Ogletree and Fauria, that is worse than what Brady had by the way. Or Duham, Ogletree, Pettigrew/Scheffer and Pat Edwards is also worse than what Brady had on Edleman/Thompkins alone. And it's proven, Pats run game was better.

Point is Stafford did better than Brady. More TDs by 6, more YPA. The 2% comp difference is on good receivers like Calvin and Bush having the drops and bad receivers too like Durham. Plus different competition.

jesus Christ lol....

Stafford is better than brady?
Competition was different.....the competition we faced sucked ass.....and we still lost.

 

[Mitchrapp]

The worst division is football, NFC North. It's not even close.

 

[LKP]

AFC East is the worst division in football EVERY year. Buffalo, Miami and the Jets. Lions would win that division every year since 2011.

 

[LKP]

jesus Christ lol....

Stafford is better than brady?
Competition was different.....the competition we faced sucked ass.....and we still lost.

6 more TDs, better YPA, more yards, similar passing first downs with only 4 more attempts (4 less), better 3rd down conversions.

Pats had better run game, less drop %, 7 more turnovers forced and got 20 more first downs from penalties called on the opposing defenses, plus had a more accurate kicker.


Stafford had the better year.

 

[mhughes0021]

6 more TDs, better YPA, more yards, similar passing first downs with only 4 more attempts (4 less), better 3rd down conversions.

Pats had better run game, less drop %, 7 more turnovers forced and got 20 more first downs from penalties called on the opposing defenses, plus had a more accurate kicker.


Stafford had the better year.

Less picks, less dumb decisions, better job finishing games, less throwing off his back foot sidearm while drifting backwards, less losing, less pissing the game away, more playoff games.

Brady had the better year with less weapons at his disposal.

 

[lgolfer]

6 more TDs, better YPA, more yards, similar passing first downs with only 4 more attempts (4 less), better 3rd down conversions.

Pats had better run game, less drop %, 7 more turnovers forced and got 20 more first downs from penalties called on the opposing defenses, plus had a more accurate kicker.


Stafford had the better year.

I just don't understand how you could say Stafford had a better year than Brady...games aren't won based on statistics. Sure, Stafford might've had 6 more TDs, but maybe that has to do with one of your points (according to you the Patriots had a better running game).

Most importantly, Brady had 11 interceptions for the season, Stafford had 19. Brady had 0 multiple interception games this year, Stafford had 4. And if you want to say some of Stafford's interceptions were not his fault, I guarantee some of Brady's weren't his fault either. And that doesn't even take into account the fumbles. According to ESPN, Stafford had 12 and Brady had 9. Turnovers KILL drives and set up short fields for the opposing team, like you've pointed out in most of your posts.

 

[Mitchrapp]

AFC East is the worst division in football EVERY year. Buffalo, Miami and the Jets. Lions would win that division every year since 2011.

Yeah okay.

Lol.

 

[brewer229]

6 more TDs, better YPA, more yards, similar passing first downs with only 4 more attempts (4 less), better 3rd down conversions.

Pats had better run game, less drop %, 7 more turnovers forced and got 20 more first downs from penalties called on the opposing defenses, plus had a more accurate kicker.


Stafford had the better year.

So it's your theory with Tom Brady on the team we still couldn't win this division and with Stafford the patriots most likely end up with the #1 seed since they would of benefited from better QB play?

 

[schles192]

It's true stafford is way better than Brady. Stafford helped get us the 10 th pick Brady might end up with the 32nd (those poor NE fans).