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Greatest Leftfielder of All Time

tycobb420 said:
Beez said:
This is the dumbest post of the day. If that cheating made you speak fluent spanish than yes. barry bonds cheating made him one of the best players ever.

Your arguement is more comparible to this

You cheating on a spanish test= Barry Bonds hitting 20 hr's but the score keeper marked him for 40. Him going 1-4 but the score keeper marking him for 3-4.

No the point is, my Spanish fluency was not real and neither are Bonds cartoon numbers. That is why you hear people refer to Maris and Aaron as the real HR champs.

his numbers are real because at the end of the day his cheating resulted in actual ability to go out and crush a baseball...your cheating allowed you to say you could speak spanish but in reality you couldn't ask someone where the bathroom is if it came down to it.
 
i know you were being sarcastic....apparently you didn't catch the sarcasm I threw back.
 
Beez said:
tycobb420 said:
No the point is, my Spanish fluency was not real and neither are Bonds cartoon numbers. That is why you hear people refer to Maris and Aaron as the real HR champs.

his numbers are real because at the end of the day his cheating resulted in actual ability to go out and crush a baseball...your cheating allowed you to say you could speak spanish but in reality you couldn't ask someone where the bathroom is if it came down to it.

My natural ability allowed me to cheat. My A is a legit as BB's numbers.
 
you're reaching. I'm bowing out....good arguement.
 
[color=#006400 said:
Mitch[/color]]I think that Michael Irvin avatar is messing up your head. Lol.

It's TO from his press conf where he cried about the attacks on Romo. It derived from an argument we had about Romo....he thinks Romo is Joe Montana! lol
 
tycobb420 said:
Beez said:
his numbers are real because at the end of the day his cheating resulted in actual ability to go out and crush a baseball...your cheating allowed you to say you could speak spanish but in reality you couldn't ask someone where the bathroom is if it came down to it.

My natural ability allowed me to cheat. My A is a legit as BB's numbers.

Brennan Boesch?
 
My stance. I believe players in every era cheated, thats why most of the current rules are in place because someone forced the league to make those rules.

No one argues that some of the best pitchers who threw spitballs are not as good as some people think. Steroids is just another advantage players have used. And its the one most of know about.

I don't care if players cheat, guess what for a while there it wasn't illegal under the MLB rulebook.
 
tycobb420 said:
[color=#006400 said:
Mitch[/color]]I think that Michael Irvin avatar is messing up your head. Lol.

It's TO from his press conf where he cried about the attacks on Romo. It derived from an argument we had about Romo....he thinks Romo is Joe Montana! lol

They lookalike in that pic.
 
[color=#551A8B said:
Rich what? Richmond![/color]]My stance. I believe players in every era cheated, thats why most of the current rules are in place because someone forced the league to make those rules.

No one argues that some of the best pitchers who threw spitballs are not as good as some people think. Steroids is just another advantage players have used. And its the one most of know about.

I don't care if players cheat, guess what for a while there it wasn't illegal under the MLB rulebook.

You're right players cheat. But not all of them so until there is either proof they did or didn't you can't just assume they did.
 
I voted for Henderson mostly because he's the only guy I have seen besides Bonds*.

Imagine a lineup with Cobb and Henderson at the top with guys like Ruth behind them... lol at the pitchers.
 
Thats my point Mitchrapp. We don't know who cheated and who didn't, therefor just because we really think one player did and we have no clue about another player. We can't just assume that they did or didn't.
 
[color=#551A8B said:
Rich what? Richmond![/color]]Thats my point Mitchrapp. We don't know who cheated and who didn't, therefor just because we really think one player did and we have no clue about another player. We can't just assume that they did or didn't.

We know Bonds cheated.
 
tycobb420 said:
[color=#551A8B said:
Rich what? Richmond![/color]]Thats my point Mitchrapp. We don't know who cheated and who didn't, therefor just because we really think one player did and we have no clue about another player. We can't just assume that they did or didn't.

We know Bonds cheated.

He's just saying if it's unfair to assume Frank Thomas cheated because of his size and power, it's unfair to assume he didn't cheat with all the stuff going on around him. It's really an unending arguement where both side have a valid arguement. Obviously the guys caught should be held to the cheating label though and as the saying goes "Innocent until proven guilty"
 
[color=#551A8B said:
Rich what? Richmond![/color]]Thats my point Mitchrapp. We don't know who cheated and who didn't, therefor just because we really think one player did and we have no clue about another player. We can't just assume that they did or didn't.

We know Bonds cheated, right? I'm not sure we can say he's as good as Ruth because he cheated and Ted Williams cheated and Lou Gehrig cheated. This is America, innocent (Ruth) until proven guilty (Bonds).
 
Was just a name. Maybe for your sake I should have went player A and player B.
 
So because Bonds cheated we have to assume all good players in history also cheated?
 
[color=#006400 said:
Mitch[/color]]So because Bonds cheated we have to assume all good players in history also cheated?

Reeding iz gud. I said innocent until proven guilty.
 
But then you also said its unfair to assume he didn't cheat. You're all over the place.
 
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