LVH Win Totals - Lions 8 Wins

[tomdalton22]

Russel Wilson hasn't proven he can carry an offense like Stafford does. And Seattle aren't big spenders in free agency which is where that money goes. Rice and Harvin were their big free agency/trade dollars but they didn't even play. And Avril was backloaded last year to this year, Bennett was on a cheaper one year deal. Lions could handle all those contracts and more. It's not solely about how much you spend on a QB that makes you a good team. Seattle could have still bombed on their draft picks even with Wilson cheap or got super injured on defense or had Lynch get hurt and not won the Super Bowl.

and the Lions couldn't even win 8 games.

 

[tonyballs]

russel Wilson...and it doesn't matter if russel is better than Stafford or not. But russel makes 90 mil less which would make our TEAM better....something Stafford doesn't do.

Lmfao....i knew you were going to say him. Beautiful!! You really think Wilson would be a success on the Lions with our defense the last few years? Smoke up, Johnny!!!

 

[tomdalton22]

Lmfao....i knew you were going to say him. Beautiful!! You really think Wilson would be a success on the Lions with our defense the last few years? Smoke up, Johnny!!!

Let's compare their stats over the past 2 years.

Total TDs
Stafford 49
Wilson 52

INTs
Stafford 36
Wilson 19

Comp %
Stafford 59.2%
Wilson 63.6%

QB Rating
Stafford 82.0
Wilson 100.6

Passing Yards
Stafford 9317
Wilson 6475

Rushing
Stafford 72 (6 TDs)
Wilson 1028 (5 TDs)

Wilson is more accurate, doesn't turn the ball over and more efficient. So, given that information I think Wilson would have as much success or more over the past 2 seasons if he were the Lions starting QB since the Lions only won 11 games in those two seasons.

 

[mhughes0021]

Lmfao....i knew you were going to say him. Beautiful!! You really think Wilson would be a success on the Lions with our defense the last few years? Smoke up, Johnny!!!

I do know Stafford wasn't....that's fact.

 

[mhughes0021]

Let's compare their stats over the past 2 years.

Total TDs
Stafford 49
Wilson 52

INTs
Stafford 36
Wilson 19

Comp %
Stafford 59.2%
Wilson 63.6%

QB Rating
Stafford 82.0
Wilson 100.6

Passing Yards
Stafford 9317
Wilson 6475

Rushing
Stafford 72 (6 TDs)
Wilson 1028 (5 TDs)

Wilson is more accurate, doesn't turn the ball over and more efficient. So, given that information I think Wilson would have as much success or more over the past 2 seasons if he were the Lions starting QB since the Lions only won 11 games in those two seasons.

LKP will defend this saying sea relies on their running game while automatically implying that our running game isn't very good. So then we will say "so I guess youre saying our run game isn't very good?" Then he will contradict himself and defend how good our run game is which will bring us back to "then I guess Stafford isn't very good cause he had great run support and still couldn't get the job done?" Then he'll throw some crappy stats out how it cant be all on the qb so we will respond with "so youre saying our team isn't very good?" and then he will contradict himself and say we have the best roster in the nfl.

There....I just saved us all 4 pages of crap.....

 

[LKP]

Wilson relies on turnovers to get TDS without many attempts. Wilson without turnovers may suck. Completion %, less drops by Seattle. Ints, less attempts by Wilson with the focus on the run game by opponents.

Seattle defenisve turnovers past 2 years 70
Detroit turnovers past 2 yeas 39 (Seattle got 39 in 2013 alone).

Wilson hasn't proven anything about leading an offense.

Last time Stafford had 30+ turnovers for him. 41 TDS, not 26 like Wilson.

 

[tomdalton22]

Wilson relies on turnovers to get TDS without many attempts. Wilson without turnovers may suck. Completion %, less drops by Seattle. Ints, less attempts by Wilson with the focus on the run game by opponents.

Seattle defenisve turnovers past 2 years 70
Detroit turnovers past 2 yeas 39 (Seattle got 39 in 2013 alone).

Wilson hasn't proven anything about leading an offense.

Last time Stafford had 30+ turnovers for him. 41 TDS, not 26 like Wilson.

Wilson leads Stafford in TDs per attempt, INTs per attempt and yards per attempt. Stafford is a volume passer. He looks like he has good yardage stats because he attempts so many passes.

 

[LKP]

Wilson leads Stafford in TDs per attempt, INTs per attempt and yards per attempt. Stafford is a volume passer. He looks like he has good yardage stats because he attempts so many passes.

Wilson gets short fields from turnovers. Easy TDs for him especially with the focus on Lynch like I said. Stafford attempts are higher because he has to lead them down the field all the time.

Detroit has 3 more rushing TDs than Seattle the past 2 years by the way. There is your 3 TD difference as the focus by opponents is stopping Stafford from throwing a TD to Calvin. Stafford led those drives.

 

[tonyballs]

Let's compare their stats over the past 2 years.

Total TDs
Stafford 49
Wilson 52

INTs
Stafford 36
Wilson 19

Comp %
Stafford 59.2%
Wilson 63.6%

QB Rating
Stafford 82.0
Wilson 100.6

Passing Yards
Stafford 9317
Wilson 6475

Rushing
Stafford 72 (6 TDs)
Wilson 1028 (5 TDs)

Wilson is more accurate, doesn't turn the ball over and more efficient. So, given that information I think Wilson would have as much success or more over the past 2 seasons if he were the Lions starting QB since the Lions only won 11 games in those two seasons.

Not knocking Wilson. He's a safe QB, who doesn't get asked to do much. He would fail miserably with Detroit.

 

[tonyballs]

LKP will defend this saying sea relies on their running game while automatically implying that our running game isn't very good. So then we will say "so I guess youre saying our run game isn't very good?" Then he will contradict himself and defend how good our run game is which will bring us back to "then I guess Stafford isn't very good cause he had great run support and still couldn't get the job done?" Then he'll throw some crappy stats out how it cant be all on the qb so we will respond with "so youre saying our team isn't very good?" and then he will contradict himself and say we have the best roster in the nfl.

There....I just saved us all 4 pages of crap.....

Running game? Nice deflect. Wilson relies on that defense. Who the fk you trying to kid? lol

 

[Mitchrapp]

Not knocking Wilson. He's a safe QB, who doesn't get asked to do much. He would fail miserably with Detroit.

That's correct. But that's why defense matters so much .. you just need a safe QB to win. We need Staff to pass 650 times to outscore teams but the more he throws the more this team is screwed. That's why I think it's always a good idea to draft and sign defensive players. We do some but not near as much..

 

[jdeb]

7-9. More of the same old crap. No depth in the secondary. Lost Young on D-Line is going to hurt. New offense, doubt the notorious mental midgets can handle the new play book in time coupled with the fact they have no discipline as a unit. Ebron will be a good player, just not in the first year. Van Noy is going to be the best pick in the draft and proof they should have focused on players that can have an impact immediately. Denard was a big miss. No money to be made in Vegas, they know the Lions suck... Well you could make some money if your name is LKP and you put your money where your posts is... of course they have to win

 

[LKP]

That's correct. But that's why defense matters so much .. you just need a safe QB to win. We need Staff to pass 650 times to outscore teams but the more he throws the more this team is screwed. That's why I think it's always a good idea to draft and sign defensive players. We do some but not near as much..

Lions top 4 of 6 draft picks defense in 2013. 3 of 5 1st round picks in last 5 years. Round 2 last two years have been defense.

 

[jdeb]

Lmfao....i knew you were going to say him. Beautiful!! You really think Wilson would be a success on the Lions with our defense the last few years? Smoke up, Johnny!!!

No one would be a success with this team. Wilson is a far better QB than Stafford. You can not minimize the excellence of a QB. Wilson buys into a scheme, studies, studies some more, and executes. QB is all about execution. Lions probably would have made the playoffs last year with Wilson. Safe is good and SMART. Staff is average and RECKLACE. He could learn a lot from Wilson. Stafford was as much to blame if not more than the defense for the collapse last year. He simply thinks he is better than he is... proof is in his footwork. Put pressure on him and he folds like the sally he is. I hope Caldwell is teaching him mental toughness because he has lost that. I sent him a bag of depends next day air at the end of last year.

 

[LKP]

No one would be a success with this team. Wilson is a far better QB than Stafford. You can not minimize the excellence of a QB. Wilson buys into a scheme, studies, studies some more, and executes. QB is all about execution. Lions probably would have made the playoffs last year with Wilson. Safe is good and SMART. Staff is average and RECKLACE. He could learn a lot from Wilson. Stafford was as much to blame if not more than the defense for the collapse last year. He simply thinks he is better than he is... proof is in his footwork. Put pressure on him and he folds like the sally he is. I hope Caldwell is teaching him mental toughness because he has lost that. I sent him a bag of depends next day air at the end of last year.

Wilson can be safe because of his run game and defense. He has not proven shit in the NFL, living off Seattles defense. He's a slightly better Trent Dilfer is what he is.

 

[tomdalton22]

Wilson can be safe because of his run game and defense. He has not proven shit in the NFL, living off Seattles defense. He's a slightly better Trent Dilfer is what he is.

But you said that the Lions defense was as good as the Seahawks.

 

[LKP]

But you said that the Lions defense was as good as the Seahawks.

They are at stops. Better on 3rd down. Bad luck with fumble recovery rate and Seattle had more CB picks. Houston healthy and Slay development is all we need for that to even out.

 

[dubbsco]

6,457 yards, 52 tds/19 INT, 100.6 rating in two years. Yeah, he's slightly better than Trent Dilfer. Give me a freaking break. Dilfer had more INT than TD and had a horrible rating. You are ridiculous. Just to piss you off, I would rather have Wilson than Stafford, the guy is a real QB. He works his tail off and makes things happens, rather than sitting back on God-given talent and just winging it out there like the ol' gunslinger.

Oh yeah I forgot, Wilson can actually move around a bit, he's not a parking meter.

 

[LKP]

Wilson lives off his defense. It's a joke how overrated he is.

 

[tomdalton22]

Wilson lives off his defense. It's a joke how overrated he is.

Stafford may be the most over rated QB in the NFL. Gets a bunch of yards because of the the number of passes he throws but he is not accurate and turns the ball over too much.