Stafford Tops Sporting News' Overrated QB List

[brewer229]

If you have run support and protection, you can have alot of TDs and it helps lower your ints. The more for each the better obviosly.

If you have boatload of turnover support (way over 30) from your defense, your QB can have alot of TDs and a good QB rating. And needs less attempts so less risk of ints. I'd say Stafford's 41 TD season had a lot to do with our defense forcing 34 turnovers. Stafford got a chance to shine. And as an elite QB he did shine.

2012 run and protection issues, drop issues, only 17 turnovers force. Injured defense that gives up leads. Zero chance to shine.

2013 had protection and run support (not alot at just exactly 4 YPC) but had drop issues and 22 turnovers forced. Some chance to shine and some shining with his 29 TDs, good 3rd % and good yardage and good first downs amounts. The ints we have gone over why they aren't his fault. Many drops too. Hurts comp % and hurts QB ratinng. Injured secondary that gives up extra big plays. 9 losses

2014 Stafford, new offense, no protection and run support, many weapon and Oline injuries. 27 turnovers helped but not way over 30. Some chance to shine. He did shine avoiding turnover, and getting crucial TDS and first downs. 11 wins. But the stats aren't there without run support, weapon health and protection.

What are you talking about..he had 4.3 in run support in 2013. That is a decent amount.

 

[LKP]

What are you talking about..he had 4.3 in run support in 2013. That is a decent amount.

4 YPC in 2013. 22nd ranked in the league actually in 2013.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing/sort/yardsPerRushAttempt/year/2013

 

[brewer229]

4 YPC in 2013. 22nd ranked in the league actually in 2013.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing/sort/yardsPerRushAttempt/year/2013

See you're forgetting to take out Stafford's shitty average. Since we are talking support you need to exclude his. 4.3 in support for stafford. 4.0 team average. 37 attempts for 69 yards (1.9 AVG) for our QB really brought down the team average.

 

[brewer229]

For example, lets take 2013 season super bowl champions. Listed as 4.3, but take out Wilson's stats, and he received 4.0 of support. So for that year, Stafford received better running support than the super bowl champions.

 

[LKP]

See you're forgetting to take out Stafford's shitty average. Since we are talking support you need to exclude his. 4.3 in support for stafford. 4.0 team average. 37 attempts for 69 yards (1.9 AVG) for our QB really brought down the team average.

Kneel downs and poor protection. No run support with no blocking.

4 YPC was his run support from blocking

 

[LKP]

For example, lets take 2013 season super bowl champions. Listed as 4.3, but take out Wilson's stats, and he received 4.0 of support. So for that year, Stafford received better running support than the super bowl champions.

Blocking. It helps Wilson run well. Seattle has better run support (this includes blocking) than Detroit did in 2013. Wilson will go the RG3 route at some point. It's not sustainable. Seattle also forced well over 30 turnovers in 2013 (39 unbeleiveable amount). No drop problems in Seattle either. clearly Lynch is better support than Bush/Bell.

Wilson didn't have to do much with 400 attempts either. Cuts down on the int opportunities for defenses with only 400 attempts.

 

[biggunsbob]

Stafford is severly underrated. He makes play after play without a run game or protection.

11-5 season.

ZERO PLAYOFF WINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YES Matt is overrated until he wins when it counts..

 

[LKP]

ZERO PLAYOFF WINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YES Matt is overrated until he wins when it counts..

He played well in both playoff games. Refs took away a win.

 

[biggunsbob]

BTW the 2011 Super bowl winning season by the Packers they were freaking riddled with injuries..

 

[biggunsbob]

He played well in both playoff games. Refs took away a win.

Bull-crap.. He played great for a quarter in a half but after the first quarter the Lions sucked like normally.. Great teams over come bad calls... 6 points score after the first quarter.. Matt has failed to delver over and over again.

He better this year because his window is running out..

 

[LKP]

BTW the 2011 Super bowl winning season by the Packers they were freaking riddled with injuries..

They were not riddled with important injuries. In fact, the backups at RT and ILB were better than the old starters they had. Bulaga>Taushcer and Bishop>old Barnett. So they caught a break with those injuries.

Grant and Starks were the same type of RB but Starks was fresher and had a nice playoff run.

Finley was the only real injury they had.

Packers had defensive health other than ILB and OLB opposite Clay and had 2nd ranked defense. Every OLB opposite Clay on the team that year stunk. Frank Zombo etc. No important OLB injuries and Chillar wasn't important either. Cullen Jenkins missed some time then came back in force. Then Thompson stupidly let him walk in his prime the next season.

The Packers had the 2nd ranked defense that year. They lost to the Lions with Stanton. They were 10-6 and a WC team. 2010 was also a very down year. The Bears were in the Champ game shows how bad a year it was. Falcons choked in playoffs and our boy Akers missed 2 big FGs to give GB the win over Philly. No doubt 2013 or 2014 Lions win the Super Bowl in 2010. Lions with healthy Stafford may have beat out GB in 2010 too. Bad missed block by Backus.

 

[dubbsco]

I suggest you guys just do what I did and take some time off when these conversations degrade like this.

 

[LKP]

I'm giving you guys great information. You probably didn't even know who was on GB's team in 2010. I can recite guys like Brandon Chillar and Frank Zombo from my head.

Seek information from me and you'll be more knowledgable.

 

[biggunsbob]

How many playoff wins does Stafford have.
How many wins on the road verses teams over .500
How many wins over teams with a wining record period.
How many Super Bowl's Has Matt directed the Lions too. (See #1).

You can say how great he is LKP but facts are he does not deliver in the
clutch and until he does he will just be a average QB.

 

[Mitchrapp]

I'm giving you guys great information. You probably didn't even know who was on GB's team in 2010. I can recite guys like Brandon Chillar and Frank Zombo from my head.

Seek information from me and you'll be more knowledgable.

It just dawned on me. Are you Matt Stafford?

 

[UMRules06]

I'm honestly still amazed that one person goes to these kind of lengths just to be a troll.

 

[brewer229]

Blocking. It helps Wilson run well. Seattle has better run support (this includes blocking) than Detroit did in 2013. Wilson will go the RG3 route at some point. It's not sustainable. Seattle also forced well over 30 turnovers in 2013 (39 unbeleiveable amount). No drop problems in Seattle either. clearly Lynch is better support than Bush/Bell.

Wilson didn't have to do much with 400 attempts either. Cuts down on the int opportunities for defenses with only 400 attempts.

Wilson's talent helps Wilson run well. At the point he runs, blocking has little to do with it. How many big hits did Wilson take, he is nothing like RGIII. You put Wilson and Stafford on the same team, Wilson will always have better rushing stats.

Also Bush and Bell combined for better average than Lynch. It is a fact.

 

[brewer229]

It just dawned on me. Are you Matt Stafford?

Nah, Matt Stafford wouldn't defend Matt Stafford this much. Matt Stafford is at least knowledgeable of the game. He wouldn't be dumb enough to post he tried to throw a jump ball to a wide open WR that could of walked in for a TD if thrown in stride.

Although it could be his girlfriend/wife. That chick is crazy and is known to do stupid stuff to defend him.

 

[mhughes0021]

Nah, Matt Stafford wouldn't defend Matt Stafford this much. Matt Stafford is at least knowledgeable of the game. He wouldn't be dumb enough to post he tried to throw a jump ball to a wide open WR that could of walked in for a TD if thrown in stride.

Although it could be his girlfriend/wife. That chick is crazy and is known to do stupid stuff to defend him.

Im anxiously awaiting to see Matts first TD pass this season....

LKP: meh....he should have thrown a pass interference ball on the 13 yd line instead.

 

[tonyballs]

How can you be overrated when he isn't even elite? He's a slightly better than average QB. Been saying it for years. The article is a joke...lol